
Thick No More · Season 3 · Episode 5
You Were Never Broken | Carrie Grant MBE on Autism, Education & Finding Hope
16 July 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
Show notes
What happens when one of Britain's most recognisable TV personalities becomes one of the country's most powerful voices for neurodivergent families?
In this deeply personal episode of Thick No More, Jay sits down with Carrie Grant MBE to explore autism, education, parenting and the fight for a more inclusive future.
Known by millions from Fame Academy, Pop Idol and decades in television and music, Carrie opens up like never before about receiving her own autism diagnosis later in life, raising neurodivergent children and why she believes our education system is still failing too many families.
Together, Jay and Carrie discuss:
- Receiving an autism diagnosis as an adult
- Why so many autistic girls and women have been overlooked
- The emotional toll carried by SEND parents
- Why schools need a complete rethink
- The power of music and creativity
- Hope, resilience and building communities that truly include everyone
- Why labels should never define potential
This is an honest, emotional and hopeful conversation that every parent, teacher, educator and neurodivergent adult should hear.
If you've ever felt misunderstood, labelled or underestimated, this episode is for you.
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